Phaedrus 243e · 243e

Where's the Boy? Let Him Hear

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Socrates — ποῦ δή μοι ὁ παῖς πρὸς ὃν ἔλεγον; ἵνα καὶ τοῦτο ἀκούσῃ, καὶ μὴ ἀνήκοος ὢν φθάσῃ χαρισάμενος τῷ μὴ ἐρῶντι.

Socrates will not deliver the recantation into the air. He asks after the boy — the imagined beautiful youth his first speech was addressed to — because the truth is no use to someone who never hears it. Let the boy hear this one too, he says, so that he doesn't, still deaf to the better argument, hurry off and give himself to the cold non-lover the first speeches recommended. Phaedrus plays along gracefully: the boy is right here beside you, always, whenever you want him. The exchange is charming, but it quietly insists on something the whole dialogue cares about — that a speech is spoken to a particular soul, for its good, and only lands if that soul is actually listening.

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Socrates
ποῦpoûwhere?δήdḗindeed / thenμοιmoiI / me / we (pl.)hotheπαῖςpaîsthe boyπρὸςpròsto / towardὃνhònwho / which / thatἔλεγονélegonI was speaking;ἵναhínaso that / in order thatκαὶkaìand / alsoτοῦτοtoûtothis / thatἀκούσῃakoúsēimay hear,καὶkaìand / alsoμὴmḕnot (negation)ἀνήκοοςanḗkoosunhearingὢνṑnbeingφθάσῃphthásēirushχαρισάμενοςcharisámenosto gratifyτῷtôitheμὴmḕnot (negation)ἐρῶντιerôntilover.

The setting

Before he begins the recantation, Socrates looks for his audience — the beautiful boy he was addressing in the first speech. Let him hear this one too, Socrates says, so that he doesn't, before the truth reaches him, rush off and give himself to the non-lover. Phaedrus assures him the boy is always right there, whenever Socrates wishes.

A note on this passage

The little stage-business here is doing real theoretical work. Socrates refuses to recant into a vacuum; he wants the boy present, because a speech, for Plato, is not a free-floating performance but something aimed at a specific soul, for that soul's sake. His worry is precise: that the boy, still anēkoos — 'un-hearing,' outside the reach of the truer speech — might phthasēi, 'get in first,' and gratify the non-lover before the recantation can reach him. Truth has to arrive in time; an argument works only on the person who actually hears it. This is the seed of the dialogue's later theory of rhetoric, where Socrates will define the true art of speech as psychagōgia, soul-leading — the craft of knowing which kind of speech suits which kind of soul and bringing it home to that soul at the right moment. The palinode about to unfold is not, then, a general essay on love; it is a rescue, spoken to one listening soul to reach it before a false speech can. And Phaedrus's answer — the boy is always here beside you — gently reminds us who the real listening soul is. There is no boy; there is Phaedrus, and behind Phaedrus the reader. The palinode is addressed to whoever is actually there to be led.

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