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Athenaeus, The Learned Banqueters (Deipnosophistae) 555a · 555a

You have to have lived a little

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Athenaeus, to Timocrates — Ἀντιφάνης ὁ κωμῳδιοποιός, ἑταῖρε Τιμόκρατες, ὡς ἀνεγίνωσκέ τινα τῷ βασιλεῖ Ἀλεξάνδρῳ τῶν ἑαυτοῦ κωμῳδιῶν, ὃ δὲ δῆλος ἦν οὐ πάνυ τι ἀποδεχόμενος, ‘ δεῖ γάρ, ἔφησεν, ὦ βασιλεῦ, τὸν ταῦτα ἀποδεξόμενον ἀπὸ συμβόλων τε πολλάκις δεδειπνηκέναι καὶ περὶ ἑταίρας πλεονάκις καὶ εἰληφέναι καὶ δεδωκέναι πληγάς,’ ὥς φησι Λυκόφρων ὁ Χαλκιδεὺς ἐν τοῖς περὶ Κωμῳδίας. ἡμεῖς οὖν τὸν περὶ ἐρωτικῶν λόγον ἐνταῦθα μέλλοντες κατατάττειν

Antiphanes the comic poet, my friend Timocrates, was once reading one of his comedies to King Alexander, who plainly did not care for it. “You see, my king,” he said, “to enjoy these things a man must often have dined on shared bills, and many times have taken and given punches over courtesans,” as Lycophron of Chalcis says in his books On Comedy. So we too, about to set down here our talk about love…

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Athenaeus, to Timocrates
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A drinking party: two men on couches, one with a lyre, one with a cup, and a woman playing the pipes between them — Athenaeus, The Learned Banqueters (Deipnosophistae)
A drinking party: two men on couches, one with a lyre, one with a cup, and a woman playing the pipes between them · Red-figure bell-krater, Painter of the Louvre Centauromachy, mid-5th century BC · The Metropolitan Museum of Art, New York (2013.158) · public domain

The setting

Book 13 opens. Athenaeus speaks in his own voice to his friend Timocrates, as he does at the start of each book, and sets up the subject: love, wives and courtesans.

A note on this passage

Athenaeus begins his book on love with a story about a failed reading. The young king does not laugh, and the poet tells him why: comedy about courtesans is written for men who have split the bill at a drinking club and come to blows over a woman. Alexander had conquered the world but had not lived that life.<br><br>It is a sly warning to the reader too. What follows is a long, learned evening of talk about wives, courtesans and boys, and Athenaeus hints that you will get more of the jokes if you have been out a little.

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