Phaedrus 227b · 227b

From a Morning with Lysias

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Socrates — ἀτὰρ Λυσίας ἦν, ὡς ἔοικεν, ἐν ἄστει;
Phaedrus — ναί, παρ᾽ Ἐπικράτει, ἐν τῇδε τῇ πλησίον τοῦ Ὀλυμπίου οἰκίᾳ τῇ Μορυχίᾳ

The talk stays small and specific — a famous orator, a house, a landmark temple — the way real conversations open. Plato is unhurried; before any philosophy, he lets us feel two friends locating a third by neighborhood, the way Athenians actually spoke.

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Socrates
ἀτὰρatàrbut / yet / howeverΛυσίαςLysíasLysias — the oratorἦνênwas,ὡςhōsas / how / that / so thatἔοικενéoikenit seems,ἐνenin / amongἄστειásteitown / the city as place / not the country;
Phaedrus
ναίnaíyes,παρ᾽par'atἘπικράτειEpikráteiEpicrates',ἐνenin / amongτῇδεtêidethis / this one hereτῇtêitheπλησίονplēsíonnear / close by / hard byτοῦtoûof theὈλυμπίουOlympíouthe Olympieum — Zeus's templeοἰκίᾳoikíāihouse / household / homeτῇtêitheΜορυχίᾳMorychíāione they call Morychus'

The setting

Socrates, learning Phaedrus has come from Lysias, checks that the famous orator was staying in town — and Phaedrus places him exactly: at Epicrates' house near the Olympieum.

A note on this passage

The concreteness is doing quiet work. By pinning Lysias to a real address near the Olympieum and the Ilissus, Plato grounds the coming flight of the soul in an ordinary Athenian afternoon — the higher the dialogue will climb, the more it insists on starting from solid ground. And the naming has an undertone: Phaedrus is fresh from a professional speech-writer, the very craft of persuasion the dialogue will put on trial. The scene is set on the orator's home turf.

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